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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2008 11:55:01 GMT
My thoughts (not necessarily what everyone else at the club thinks) on the last post by 'an interested observer':
You are right about the risk involved in the contracts and I know the club is aware of this. That is why the people concerned in drawing up the contracts are taking advice from lots of different people to make sure it is done properly. There is also the risk of not having players on contract that we could later command a fee for. Maybe not a great amount but if, say Brahim, was wanted by another club we would be able to raise some valuable funds for the club by transfering him. I believe we have missed out in the past so I think we should be careful not to do so again. But this must be handled carefullly and I know that everyone appreciates that.
I don't think that Elliott and Mazza are given no reward for their committment. They are amongst the most popular people at the club. They also receive payment like all the other players. James was even awarded a special prize at the Dinner Dance last season for his committment and is regularly the team captain.
Some very interesting points have been raised in this thread but there has also been a lot of bitching which doesn't really do anyone any good. At the end of the day we all have the best interests of Godalming Town F.C. at heart.
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Post by Interested obserber on Apr 17, 2008 12:25:50 GMT
Glenn
It is good to know that decisions regarding the contracts is not being taken lightly but do you really consider the chance of maybe picking up a few hundred/thousand pounds in a transfer deal is really the reason for the contracts. I think the guaranteed service of the player is likely to be the overriding factor but that comes with the enhanced risks as previously discussed.
I agree with your comments regarding the stalwarts as I described them, they are indeed popular with fans and club officials alike but unfortunately they don't pick the team.
Those players who will be issued with contracts will be given a great deal of security and kudos which counts for a lot in the changing times of Godalming Town FC. I was just asking whether the stalwarts didn't deserve similar perks for their commitment?
As you say some interesting points have been made. Lets cut the bitching and get the club on a good footing both on and off the field.
Maybe this should be another thread but it all comes down to finances etc.
I wonder what the clubs plan is regarding promotion to level 3? Is there a 5 year plan to get the finances in place ready for possible ground improvements, wages and travel cost or are we blindly looking for promotion and hoping that all "that sort of stuff" will come out in the wash?
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Post by gordon ramsey on Apr 17, 2008 12:56:25 GMT
so is it true les has gone to merrow ? i will have to find there home pitch so i can get a decent burger on a saturday ! oh and has bev joined him there ? you guys at godalming must miss there good food and the happy atmosphere the created for the club
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Post by paying guest on Apr 17, 2008 13:47:02 GMT
What has happened to the club this year? Roger and Bev leaving. Chuck coming in and running the first team in isolation. Sarah the physio leaving. Les leaving. Sam leaving. Chris and Guy leaving. Dropping the under 16's. Gates so low. This looks like a club that's in serious trouble doesn't it?  I hope the committee and especially the trustees find it in themselves to start making the right decisions, no matter how hard they are! We all want the club to be around in 5 years time.......... Am I the only one who is concerned?? |
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Post by paying guest on Apr 17, 2008 13:56:48 GMT
mucked up just then, I thinnk the loss of Sam Les and Roger -Bev has hit the club very hard this year, it1s nice to see the first team winning,ihave been to support the res with the other few mainly dads. Ifeel a new dawn is about to happen , a new manager for the under 18 wthout out a son playing this can only be good for the club. So lets stop bitching and wish all new managers the best for next season
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Post by Former youth team player on Apr 17, 2008 22:36:47 GMT
As for what kevin shepheard has to say about the connection with Farncombe, if i was Roger i would feel very insulted as without his tireless work over many seasons there would never have been a youth set-up at GTFC let alone a ladies side. I know from experience the endless support he gave to the young players at the club and the opportunities he gave many to advance through the sides. I know i would not be playing were i am today without his most valuable guidance and support. So how about you lot being grateful for the foundation he laid down and then perhaps you WILL move forward as an established senior football club!!
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Post by terry guest on Apr 17, 2008 23:16:41 GMT
No person is bigger than the club. Roger and Bev going so what the club has survived and gone on to better things.
The Phyisio going, well phyisios have left before and can be replaced.
The under 16 and 18 managers leaving, to be fair they haven't covered themselves in glory this season and have had a string of poor results.
Chuck has done well this season and more importantly so have the players, despite what has gone on and what is going on they go out each game and play their hearts out, they express themselves and play without fear which under Roger they didn't.
The Roger era has finished he served the club well but life goes on and the club goes on and i repeat nobody is bigger than the club
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Post by Chris Evans on Apr 18, 2008 0:18:05 GMT
mucked up just then, I thinnk the loss of Sam Les and Roger -Bev has hit the club very hard this year, it1s nice to see the first team winning,ihave been to support the res with the other few mainly dads. Ifeel a new dawn is about to happen , a new manager for the under 18 wthout out a son playing this can only be good for the club. So lets stop bitching and wish all new managers the best for next season who ever you are seeing you have not got the backbone to say who you are.what is ment by your comment about my son playing for G.T.F.C while i was manager,and how will this be better for the club.as he is reguarly playng for the res, which proves he is good enough to play at that level or is that you just wanting to jump on the bandwagon. He probably got more of a hard time because he was my son.as for whoever takes over as u18s manager i wish him the best of luck for the future,you have got a great bunch of lads their, and i have been proud to manage them.Thank you for all your hard work and dedication lads. And i would just like to say for the record that some of us dont get paid for managing we do it because we love football.things change people move on mistakes are made thats life,so let stop all the bitching and wish all the staff at the' Gs ' the best for the future. Yours in football, Chris Evans. |
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Post by Chris Evans on Apr 18, 2008 0:42:22 GMT
No person is bigger than the club. Roger and Bev going so what the club has survived and gone on to better things. The Phyisio going, well phyisios have left before and can be replaced. The under 16 and 18 managers leaving, to be fair they haven't covered themselves in glory this season and have had a string of poor results. Chuck has done well this season and more importantly so have the players, despite what has gone on and what is going on they go out each game and play their hearts out, they express themselves and play without fear which under Roger they didn't. The Roger era has finished he served the club well but life goes on and the club goes on and i repeat nobody is bigger than the club As for quote about the U18s this season, I would just like to remind you that at the start of the season everyone of the players were 16 at under 15s most were playing in the S.P.L. sunday league so theyve had a steep learning curve in a short space of time,some have played for the res team. If you had taken the time to come and watch some of the matches or read the match reports then you would be able to make a valued oppinion. It is easy to sit in your chair and spout your oppinion,try getting off your bakside and doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2008 8:08:50 GMT
Chris - I think everyone realises what a good job the U18's have done this season. The step up from U16 Sunday football to the Southern Youth League is a big one. Well done for a very solid season. I attended quite a few games and think it is great to see some of the players progressing into the Reserves - 4 played on Saturday for example. A season or two at this higher level and hopefully we may have some players capable of playing in the Southern League (or Ryman League or Unibond League at the rate we are going!).
Best of luck next season.
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Post by Concerned on Apr 18, 2008 8:24:26 GMT
I find it interesting that everyone keeps saying let's stop bithcing and support the managers.
The very fact that there is feedback and discussion about the future of the club is exactly what I'd hoped.
As for the comments by Terry Guest - don't know who you are, but with an attitude like that, not sure I'd want to, would you like a saucer of milk?!
I don't believe that anyone has said one man is bigger than the club and yes Roger has gone and I think even he would agree that he left at the right time, the club and Roger needed a change. However, DO NOT underestimate the hard work and time that Roger put into building the team and the club. Who can ever forget our MOST memorable double winning season! Which in fact made all of this possible!
Times have moved on and Chuck is at the helm now, all some of us are asking from him is that he widens his focus to the fortunes of the club, not just the first team. The club needs money to pay off it's debts and build a solid foundation for the future. If the reserves and u18's are doing well then more gate receipts, more money in the bar and the kitchen.
I look forward to the AGM and hearing about all the plans that the club has for next season and how it's going to achieve these goals, both financially and professionally!
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Post by Ex Youth Team on Apr 18, 2008 10:31:07 GMT
Last season was a great season for us U16's we were backed by the club and very closely linked with Roger, this resulting in a league title. This season has been different, Chuck hasn't made one appearance at one of our games and made no signs of being interested at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2008 11:17:39 GMT
i agree, but he did make one appearence to potentially the most unimportant game we played with 3 keepers in the starting line up. Missed our biggest game at woking. To be a good club, with no money, the cheapest way to do it, is use the youth! so they get rid of the U16s and possibly the U18s. 3 players from this years under18s got a regular game with the reserves but only when they were short. Are the reserves content with using players who are just happy with reserve team football? whats the point? godalming are missing out on some good players who are willing to step down a level at merrow just to play. im a big fan of godalming town evidence is seen that last season and this season captained the youth side, played regularly for the reserves last season, raising money for the club. But now feel that the U18s are just a waste of time, will next season be different? AND for the person who said we didnt achieve anything this season should open their eyes, we've improved, which is what our goal was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2008 11:23:44 GMT
also if they dont want to fund a youth team use the godalming college team, its free, they organise their own games, transport and have good facilities!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2008 11:28:23 GMT
Just to confirm; as mentioned in another thread the U18's will run next season and most likely in the Southern Youth League again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2008 11:33:37 GMT
yer but thats just saying there will be a team..not answering the question! will there be an interest in the team or will promises be made and not kept?
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Post by ballboy on Apr 18, 2008 12:29:41 GMT
mucked up just then, I thinnk the loss of Sam Les and Roger -Bev has hit the club very hard this year, it1s nice to see the first team winning,ihave been to support the res with the other few mainly dads. Ifeel a new dawn is about to happen , a new manager for the under 18 wthout out a son playing this can only be good for the club. So lets stop bitching and wish all new managers the best for next season who ever you are seeing you have not got the backbone to say who you are.what is ment by your comment about my son playing for G.T.F.C while i was manager,and how will this be better for the club.as he is reguarly playng for the res, which proves he is good enough to play at that level or is that you just wanting to jump on the bandwagon. He probably got more of a hard time because he was my son.as for whoever takes over as u18s manager i wish him the best of luck for the future,you have got a great bunch of lads their, and i have been proud to manage them.Thank you for all your hard work and dedication lads. And i would just like to say for the record that some of us dont get paid for managing we do it because we love football.things change people move on mistakes are made thats life,so let stop all the bitching and wish all the staff at the' Gs ' the best for the future. Yours in football, Chris Evans. |
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Post by Guy Whittaker on Apr 18, 2008 15:41:51 GMT
Just like to say Chris and I ran the youth team our way rightly or wrongly, not everybody agreed with all our decisions but over two seasons I think we did most things right, having won the league last season and helping the players progress this season in both the youth league and reserve football. I personally think Chuck could have been involved more with the youth and reserve teams but I also understand the first team takes priorty and there is only so much one man can do. As far as the youth team is concerned I hope it does continue next year having originally saying I would stay but due to the commitment at Merrow (which hopefully most people will understand why Chris and I took on) and my work commitments I can no longer do. I have already let the club know I will do all I can to help out the new management team to assist in the transition period so they can continue to take forward what are a great bunch of lads including 3 or 4 from this years under 16's that Chris and I have already involved ready for next year.(Also showing we were planning ahead and not leaving the club in the S**t).And finally just to say we are not stealing any players they have all been told to make their own decisions even our own sons.
Guy
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Post by ex youth team on Apr 18, 2008 15:57:14 GMT
lets face it, what other attractions did godalming town have without guy at the club, now he's gone we are all off
LOVE YOU GUY
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Post by a player on Apr 18, 2008 16:28:41 GMT
to be honest who ever had started this forum obviously loves roger too much,,
chuck martini had to deal with players leavin like lydo and such but now has formed this team into a team that can competively battle the other teams in the league for play-offs,,
roger obviously has a good manager in mickey mouse leagues but is nan at big boy leagues!!!
chuck martini=legend
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